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Hi @User 👋
Do you see any error messages on the console when you run the above command?
Also is Port 
4317
open in the machine 
172.29.11.33
? And can you check if it accessible from the terminal where you are running the above command?
l
Hi Mr @User, I checked again, and I can saw my app data in Traces menu 🙂
p
Nice 🙂
Can you also share a screenshot of the Metrics page which lists all your services
l
Signoz is so good 🙂
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p
Thanks - what is the main problem you are trying to solve with SigNoz?
l
I want monitor all microservice in my system. I want to know about performance of those and Service Map. And I find them in Signoz. I'm new with Signoz, If I meet another problem with it I'll need your help (and everyone help).
Thank You!
Hi Mr @User, I cannot find some information about performance of my java appication.
Example: Total heapsize, heapsize used, free heapsize, ...
Dose Signoz support it?
p
yes - you have to enable JVM Metrics for that - Here's a guide on how to do that https://signoz.notion.site/Adding-JVM-metrics-from-Springboot-40c3b026573f435b932f3a42f8983e13
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l
Thank you so much, I'll to try
Hi Mr @User, I want to ask you about this step:
What's 8090 port? Can I change it?
p
@User 
8090
is the port in which actuator exposes prometheus metrics by default. If you can chance the port in which actuator exposes prometheus metrics - you can just put that port here
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In this section - We are just configuring the springboot app to expose prometheus metrics and then telling SigNoz otel-collector to scrape these metrics . This might be helpful - https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/reference/html/actuator.html#actuator.metrics.export.prometheus
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l
Hi Mr @User, I complete setting JVM monitor. It so good 🙂
I have a question. Can We install Signoz using kafka and druid directly to machine (not using contaner or Kubernestes)?
Thanks for your support.
p
Nice to see that @User If you get some time, might be a good idea to write a short blog on how you monitored JVM Metrics with SIgNoz. Will help other users also get a sample of how they can also do the same 🙂
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Can We install Signoz using kafka and druid directly to machine (not using contaner or Kubernestes)?
@User Can you explain what's the use case you are trying? We will be moving to Clickhouse as the main datastore we are supporting - so will be depracating the version which uses Druid as datastore. Do you have a preference for using Druid?
Or do you mean just being able to install as binaries? Something along these lines - https://github.com/SigNoz/signoz/issues/392
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l
Yes, I'll write a short blog and share my experience for community.
We used druid for store many data type (timeserie, json, ... ) from many source for report and analytic and I also want to use it for store data from Signoz. As I know Clickhouse is only for timeserieDB. Druid and kafka cluster can scale flexible and fit with bigdata scenario.
This is the reason I want to use druid
Can I know Why Signoz team depracate Druid?
Thanks Mr @User!
p
Hey @User We found clickhouse to be more resource efficient and as a small team supporting 2 datastores was taking lots of our bandwidth @User can share more on the technical advantages of why we preferred clickhouse
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a
Hey @User, happy to get connected.
As I know Clickhouse is only for timeserieDB.
Clickhouse is a distributed columnar database and is very powerful in running aggregates over trace data. Moreover, recently uber also moved their logging from Elastic to Clickhouse as detailed in this blog. So, clickhouse seems to be the best fit for traces, metrics and even logs. Some more points about columnar dbs in this blog https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/why-observability-requires-distributed-column-store/
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l
Thanks so much Mr @User, Mr @User. I have read your post in a few days :) and It's really good. So, Can I install Clickhouse separately and config Signoz to use that. I want install Clickhouse separately because I want to controll it and I can query it or synch it between another databases.
p
@User should be able to help in this. also @User Would you be available for a 30min zoom call sometime next week? We would like to understand your use cases for SigNoz more deeply and how we can support you better in using SigNoz. Calendly link - https://calendly.com/pranay-signoz/meet-pranay?month=2021-12
l
Thanks Mr @User, But so sorry, I'm not good at english listening and speaking 😞 . I can share to you the model ecosystem I want to build look like:
a
Can I install Clickhouse separately and config Signoz to use that.
@User this should be possible but not easily configurable now. If you open an issue about this we can add it to our upcoming sprint. Also, want to know whether you have tested the product and usecases? How far are you in using SigNoz at production. We shall get it done by then.
In your observability setup diagram, you don't need the lower metrics setup of prometheus + M3DB + grafana, SigNoz can also ingest metrics and is fully compatible with prometheus format. But sure, you can get started with SigNoz as APM for now and then we shall make 
prometheus + M3DB + grafana
setup redundant.
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